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Sarah Palin supports stoning and slavery?

Posted in Feature, Loon-at-large with tags , , , , , , on May 14, 2010 by loonwatch
Franklin Graham and Sarah PalinFranklin Graham and Sarah Palin

Authored by: Inconnu

Edited by: Danios

There’s nothing quite like one loon being interviewed by another loon.  Sarah Palin, who defendedFranklin Graham’s vitriolic comments calling Islam “a very evil and wicked religion,” recently appeared on the Islamophobic show The O’reilly Factor, where she claimed that the United States is a “Christian nation” and that U.S. law should be based upon the Bible and the Ten Commandments.  Palin declared:

Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments. What in hell scares people about talking about America’s foundation of faith? It is that world view that involves some people being afraid of being able to discuss our foundation, being able to discuss God in the public square, that’s the only thing I can attribute it to.

So, let’s list the Ten Commandments so that everyone knows what Sarah Palin is talking about.  Notwithstanding minor numbering and wording differences, the commandments read as follows:

  1. You shall have no gods beside the Lord of Israel.
  2. You shall not make for yourself an idol.
  3. You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Pretty benign, huh? But let’s take a closer look at what it means to have our law based upon the Ten Commandments and the Bible, and see what happens to those who violate them:

#1 and #2

Americans who worship a different God, other than the God of the Bible, are committing a crime, because the Ten Commandments say:

I am the Lord your God…Do not have any other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol…You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents… (Exodus 20:2-6)

And do you know what the Biblical punishment is for worshiping a god besides the Judeo-Christian God?  Death by stoning. The Bible reads:

If a man or woman living among you…has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them…Take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

#3

Taking the name of the Lord in vain will also become a criminal act:

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name. (Exodus 20:7)

And do you know what the punishment is for those who blaspheme or curse the Lord’s name?They should be stoned to death:

And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him…And Moses spoke to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed [the LORD] out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses. (Leviticus 24:16)

Remember Anderson Cooper’s rant against Islam in which he said: “I have no respect for a prophet or god that needs its followers to defend it by threats and murder.”  Will he now pass such a snide comment against Judaism and Christianity, whose God tells them to stone to death those who curse Him?  On the other hand, no Quranic verse says for the believers to kill those who insult God.  Instead, the Quran puts the onus on the believers, advising them to be respectful towards the gods of others as a matter of reciprocity, and reassures the Muslims that God is fully capable of dealing with them Himself.  The Quran says:

“Revile not their gods lest they out of spite revile God in their ignorance…In the end, they will return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.”  (Quran, 6:108)

Meanwhile, the Bible says to stone to death those who insult God.  What’s more, if you curse the King, you are also stoned to death:

Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die. (1 Kings 21:10)

Sarah Palin blasphemed our “king”, Barack Obama.  Should she be stoned to death?

This commandment also means the end of South Park and other shows that mock religious figures such as Jesus Christ and God. Maybe Palin can collaborate with Revolution Muslim.

#4

This commandment–keeping the Sabbath holy–would mean billions of dollars of lost revenue:

Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. For six days you shall labor and do all your work. But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns. (Exodus 20:8-11)

Oh, and if you so much as pick up sticks on the Sabbath, you will be stoned to death:

Tthey found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And the Lord said unto Moses, “The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones…” And all the congregation…stoned him with stones, and he died, as the Lord commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

#5

Although most people agree that honoring your father and mother is a good thing, I doubt many Americans would agree with the Biblical punishment for those who violate this commandment.  Hint:it’s death.  The Bible says:

Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death. (Exodus 21:15,17)

#6, #8, and #9

Now, there are some U.S. laws that do coincide with the Ten Commandments: those forbidding murder, stealing, and bearing false witness.  However, these are universal to all religions and law systems, as they are universal moral and legal principles.

Yet, for the record, I must disclose that the Bible says if one steals but can’t make restitution, he must be sold into slavery:

If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he must pay back five head of cattle for the ox and four sheep for the sheep…A thief must certainly make restitution, but if he has nothing, he must be sold as a slave to pay for his theft. (Exodus 22:1-3)

If we are following Biblical law, then slavery (and racialized slavery at that) can be reinstated in the United States as well:

You may purchase male or female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you.  You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property,  passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow countrymen the Israelites this way. (Leviticus, 25:44-46)

Applying this to today, I guess we could take Mexicans as slaves.

Moving on to the ninth commandment (the one prohibiting lies), guess what the punishment for that is?   If you lie…you must be destroyed:

You must destroy those who tell lies. (Psalms 5:6)

#7 and #10

If we base U.S. law in the Ten Commandments, then adultery becomes a severely punished crime (Tiger Woods should turn himself in now…):

You shall not commit adultery. (Exodus 20: 14)

And the punishment for adultery is…you guessed it! Stoning to death:

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

So, let’s recap: the punishment for taking other gods beside the God of Israel is stoning to death; the punishment for taking the Lord’s name in vain is stoning to death; the punishment for working on the Sabbath is stoning to death; the punishment for dishonoring your father or mother is death; the punishment for committing adultery is stoning to death; if you lie, you get “destroyed” (does that mean you get killed?); if you steal, you are sold into slavery.

Summary of punishments for violating the Ten Commandments:

#1 stoning to death

#2 stoning to death

#3 stoning to death

#4 stoning to death

#5 death

#6 death

#7 stoning to death

#8 sold into slavery

#9 you are destroyed

#10 stoning to death

Our legislators need to get busy if we are to follow Sarah Palin’s logic. They have a lot of pretty harsh laws to write.

Sarah Palin et al. want this country to be “Judeo-Christian”, by which they mean that the real Americans are Jews and Christians…certainly not Muslim-Americans, whose loyalty must always be questioned, since they are not real Americans.  This all fits their xenophobic paradigm.

Palin’s contention that our Founding Fathers wanted to base this country’s law upon the Ten Commandments flies in the face of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”

Now, let’s imagine:

What if a Muslim had said: “We need to create U.S. law based on the Quran”? What if someone said that American law should be based upon “Sharia”? People like Spencer, Geller, and the rest of the goof troop would be screaming “Islamicization!” “Dhimmitude!” “Jihad!” “Islamic Domination!” at the top of their lungs. They would spend day and night quoting Islamic scripture–just like I did with the Bible–to prove how horrible such a sentiment is.  If they want to weaponize the Quran and hadiths, we can do the same with their scriptures.  They will not win in this game, and it’s really unbelievable how profound their hypocrisy is.

Author’s Note: Some may get offended at how I used the Bible in this article, and I respect that.  I felt it necessary to use some of their own bitter medicine against them, so they know how it feels and why it’s wrong to do.  It’s only when you are on the receiving end of it that you will realize how obnoxious it is.

Update: Watch Sarah Palin’s interview and Cenk Uygur’s epic response:

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A Christian Stealth Jihad in the United States?

Posted in Feature, Loon Sites with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on March 31, 2010 by loonwatch
Christian Stealth Jihad?Christian Stealth Jihad?

A favorite theme of the right-wing nutjob community in the US is to fantasize about the threat of an Islaimc Shariah takeover of the United States.

They accuse every effective Muslim leader and every successful Muslim organization in one way or another of scheming to institute Islamic law (Shariah) as the official law of our government.

The pictures they paint in their books, radio shows, and blogs range from Muslims conspiring for a hostile takeover (through violent Jihad) to Muslims conspiring for a peaceful takeover of the United States (through perfectly legal means).  The latter is what the sages of the nutjob community – yes I am aware that’s an oxymoron – are terming stealth Jihad.

Stealth Jihad of course is the take over from within, the slow and gradual but forced transformation of American government from our current constitution to Shariah (Islamic law), a process to be achieved through the system, in the light of day, in a perfectly legal and peaceful manner.

There are many problems with this old wife’s tale of which the following are a few:

  • – Muslims constitute less than 3 million people according to the Pew Research Center, that’s less than 1% of the United States. So whatever effort they are going to invest in, it had better subdue more than 99% of the American people, that’s 297 million free, discerning, intelligent people.
  • – If Muslims indeed are working on a peaceful takeover of the country, what does that assume about the 3 million, that they have superhuman ability to influence and brainwash everyone else? And what does it assume about the 297 million others, that they are hapless, helpless, gullible morons that can easily be brainwashed?
  • – There is in fact not a single Muslim organization of note that has as its mission “the Islamization of our legal system” or anything even close to suggesting replacing the US constitution with the Shariah. Not ISNA, not CAIR, not MPAC, not MAS, not MSA. The claim originates from lifelong detractors of American Muslim organizations and leaders and their efforts to enfranchise their minority communities, never from the mission statements of Muslims themselves. (I challenge any of those detractors to point LoonWatch to any of the mission statements of the above organizations that would prove us wrong.)

So far so good.

Well so what about working to replace our secular constitution that separates between Church and State with some religious canonical rules and regulations that does not? Are there any organizations out there that in fact claim such a thing as their mission?

The answer is yes.

One such organization is a radical group by the name of Reclaim Oklahoma For Christ(reclaimoklahoma.org). Here is the mission statement from their website:

To educate our pastors, legislators, educators, students and all citizens as to the truth about America’s Christian Heritage and the role of fundamental, Biblical Christianity in the establishment and function of our legal, legislative and educational systems; and to work towards the successful reestablishment of these values in our society today.

Hmm, America’s Christian Heritage? So America only has one heritage? There are no Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, Buddhist Americans, Atheist Americans, etc? We are all one big homogeneous group with a single religious heritage determined for us by this group. If you are anything but Christian, tough luck for you, drop your heritage and get in line to assume THE American heritage as this group sees it.

More importantly, notice the explicit language involved in the phrase: the role of fundamental, Biblical Christianity in the establishment and function of our legal, legislative systems.

So basically, the goal of this group is not just see the US government, schools, universities and society at large dominated with their religion and it’s holy book, the Bible, but with a “fundamental” interpretation thereof.

So, here’s a pop quiz, what does one call working to subject America – its “legal, legislative, and educational systems”, as well as “all citizens” to the “fundamental” teachings of someone’s religious holy book, its values, rules, etc? Oh yes, “working to dominate America with Sharia via a stealth Jihad!”

That’s right folks, there is an ongoing stealth Christian Jihad out there for Christian Shariah to dominate US government and society.

Mind you, unlike with the Muslims, it’s not a mother population of 3 million mostly struggling immigrants we are talking about here, but a mother population of 70 million linguistically native, religiously fervent, politically savvy mainstream looking citizens. Talk about stealth.

And guess what? The “reclaiming America for Jesus” bible-thumping bunch ARE in fact in full “infiltration” (to use a favorite Spencer term) of our government, our educational system, and society at large. It’s a population that does not just have 2 members in congress like with the Muslims, but dozens in congress and the senate, not to mention the sprawling mega-churches, the business tycoons, media conglomerates, universities, and well-funded lobby groups. Their tangible effect can be seen from changing tax-payer funded school curricula and student history books in Texas to affecting our federal laws on abortion, to influencing our foreign policy (including the push for misguided wars in the Middle East some of which have occurred like Iraq and others for which they are still pushing).

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And guess what, it turns out it’s not all stealth. There are pockets of this population that is willing to go the violent terrorist route to reclaim America for Jesus!

Where is the excitable hairball known as Robert Spencer? Why the silence, Bob? This is totally up your ally if indeed your beef is with “stealth jihad” and “religious shariah” taking over the US, and not necessarily Muslims per se as you often claim? Do you see why people think you are a blabbering hypocrite?

And where are the screeching wails of your foul-mouthed sidekick, Pamela Geller? Cat got your tongue Pam?

Where is Brigitte Gabriel, and Nonie Darwish and Wafa Sultan and the other sweaty cheerleaders of the big cry against the imminent “Islamic takeover”? No good book deals here for you ladies? No speaking tours opening up where you get cash bags and back pats from your ringmasters?

Where are the monitoring websites, and the blog craze, and the concerned members of congress, and the warnings of the expert talking heads, and the tell-all books? No money in this business? Thank God for the Muslims!